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Nice leaves KaiZi Gaming


sneakyfox

5614 Posts

According to his own Twitter, Nice has left KaiZi Gaming. He was one of two acquisitions of high-profile Chinese players before last season of the GTC (the other being TIME).

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ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN2586 Posts

just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi

TL+ Member
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

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ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN2586 Posts

On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:

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On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.

LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi

TL+ Member
Xain0n

Italy3083 Posts

Nice is pretty strong by himself and he would be an invaluable addition to any Tteam interested to join GTC. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get picked up very soon!
dbRic1203

Germany966 Posts

Kind of expected that. Every other ctc Team will be more than glad to pick him up
He ll probably get a better offer as well.

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digmouse

China5591 Posts

I could see why as with TIME on KZ, the existence of Nice isn’t a necessity.

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Korea (North)9 Posts

back on TSG, probably

언젠가 …

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Korea (North)9 Posts

On July 04 2020 00:40 llllllllllIIIIIlllll wrote:
back on TSG, probably

ah wait, there is no TSG anymore, sorry x_x

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EthanCheung

1 Post

He’s a nice weapon against TIME in GTC, so i guess he won’t be worrying about teamless

swarminfestor

Malaysia420 Posts

Afreeca Freecs or Jin Air, please grab him fast.

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TelecoM

United States10090 Posts

I love his style as a player, he will be picked up quickly I am sure of it.

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Zhangnneys

United States3 Posts

On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:

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On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.

Taiwan is generally a part of China, right. We all know that.

Karis Vas Ryaar

United States3373 Posts

It’s complicated and gets companies in trouble all the time and/or celebrities blacklisted from China for having the Taiwan flag with them. Anytime a Company doesn’t include Taiwan on maps of china they have to apologize profusely for it (mostly clothing companies I think.)

The short explanation is China claims it as part of China in spite of the fact they’ve never set foot on Taiwan and Taiwan generally sees itself as a seperate entity. there’s only like around 15 countries that have official diplomatic relations with Taiwan because China refuses to have anything to do with countries that do and well China’s economy is way bigger than Taiwan’s obv. For international events such as the Olympics Taiwan enters either Chinese Taipei or China if China isn’t entering themselves.

Hopefully I didn’t mess any of that stuff up.

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rayl991

Afghanistan40 Posts

On July 05 2020 11:27 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
It’s complicated and gets companies in trouble all the time and/or celebrities blacklisted from China for having the Taiwan flag with them. Anytime a Company doesn’t include Taiwan on maps of china they have to apologize profusely for it (mostly clothing companies I think.)

The short explanation is China claims it as part of China in spite of the fact they’ve never set foot on Taiwan and Taiwan generally sees itself as a seperate entity. there’s only like around 15 countries that have official diplomatic relations with Taiwan because China refuses to have anything to do with countries that do and well China’s economy is way bigger than Taiwan’s obv. For international events such as the Olympics Taiwan enters either Chinese Taipei or China if China isn’t entering themselves.

Hopefully I didn’t mess any of that stuff up.

You forget the most important thing, both the PRC and ROC claim to be the real China. The split arise at the end of the Chinese civil war where the CCP won in the mainland while the defeated KMT retreated to Taiwan.

BonEsc2

1 Post

On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:

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On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.

For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one

followZeRoX

Serbia1339 Posts

On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.

For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one

Completely agreed. Maybe better example would be if we called american players by state in USA they are reside in.

Andi_Goldberger

547 Posts

On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.

For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one

Do people from Taiwan refer to themselves as “chinese” or would they say “I am taiwanese”? Or both? Which one is preferred?

taeyang numba one

Karis Vas Ryaar

United States3373 Posts

On July 06 2020 09:04 Andi_Goldberger wrote:

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On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:

On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.

For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.

For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one

Do people from Taiwan refer to themselves as “chinese” or would they say “I am taiwanese”? Or both? Which one is preferred?

Wikipedia had a 2013 poll at 77 percent. the most recent poll I could find was from last fall and found the following.

The U.S.-based Pew Research Center found that 66% view themselves as Taiwanese, 28% as both Taiwanese and Chinese and 4% as just Chinese. The telephone poll of 1,562 people, conducted last fall, has a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points.” 83 percent among young people though.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/poll-taiwanese-distance-themselves-from-chinese-identity/

as for skipping the history of it yeah I wasn’t sure how much detail to go into. I’m not super informed an the whole real China part of it. I think the ROC was viewed internationally as the real China until the 70s and Nixon’s whole visit to China and normal relations with the PRC led to the switch at least internationally.

I’m not from the area so I’m really not sure what the proper way to describe where he’s from is. Regarding states in the US at least form my experience we don’t really uses states that much to describe people unless it’s like Hawaii which is very unique. personally I’d be more likely to use regions or areas (ie midwest/west/ north east/south.) Not sure how that would apply to China though

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